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Love my burn a gun.

Absolutely love it.

Our topic, less than lethal force and what it can do for you.

Josh Girard joins us.

Josh is the director of law enforcement and private security at Burnett Technologies.

The burn launcher is a hell of an interesting project, which will tell you a little bit more about.

Josh, your background is in law enforcement, correct?

It sure is. Yeah, we're 22 years. Am I not supposed to call it a gun?

You know, we try to stay away from the whole firearms because we want people to understand that

it's definitely, you know, we joke and call it the ungun. You know, it's really not a firearm.

It's legal in so many other places. So we, you know, we try to separate a little bit, but,gun. You know, it's really not a firearm. It's, it's legal in so many other

places. So we, you know, we try to separate a little bit, but, but you know, the important

things people understand what it is, what it can do. And so if that's what it takes, then, then we're good with that. I'll tell you what. If I pull it on somebody, I want them to think it's a gun. I don't mind that. And it looks like a gun. So why less than lethal force as opposed to a gun for the

average homeowner, for instance?

You know, if you look at law enforcement over the last, you know, three, four plus decades,

less than lethal force has been a big, you know, proponent of law enforcement and a big part of how law enforcement, you know,

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