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Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John. Thank you for joining me today at the Busy Mom

Podcast. Many of you are listening last Monday when I interviewed my friend Gwen Smith

about her new book I Wanted All, and she has joined me again today. So I'm really, really

happy that she took the time to do that. Gwen, can you hear me? I can hear you. I love this

phone thing. It's like having you in my in studio with me only not. Exactly. It's awesome.

I love technology, and we're hoping that our iPhones cooperate with us and that the technology

cooperates and my handsome hunk of engineering husband over there is enjoying himself, which

I can tell that he is because he has a fellow musician on the line. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

I know. So we need I was telling him. I'm like, I'm telling you guys you get together and

play guitars, and it's going to be awesome. It's going to be totally awesome. We'll bring

out the like 1980s rock and roller in everybody. It's really.

Totally. You guys can use my background. There you go. Right. And we've told you anytime

when you're neck of the woods, that's what we'll do. I'm just swing by for a bathroom

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