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So what did you think of the pasta? Oh my God. It was just okay. I was like an ambush. It was too fast. I just didn't know and I actually, my thing honestly is I was really hungry and I liked it a lot. I wanted there to be more salt on it. I know. And I could have asked for more salts, but basically Natalie, sorry, I'm explaining to our guess. I'm so annoyed. Sorry. I hate serving a wrong meal. Like, I just, like, I hate it. And, like, obviously, I felt like it could have been saltier, too. But it was just like we were out of time. I knew that there was... Natalie made pasta starting at 605. That's right. And we had to be here at 6.30. And that was like at Natalie's house. So it was a tough... It was a tough time issue. It was a tough time. It was a tough time. It was a tough period for both of us. And the pasta was really good and it just if it had more salt. And it found itself wanting. And I didn't want to say and you knew, I know you knew and we just actually like, we didn't address it. We didn't talk about it at all. I actually thought it was in the clear. Bitch. I thought it wouldn't have to come to this. By the way, I want to tell you something. You are never in the clear with me.

Years later, you're like, do you remember we had Matt on the podcast and I made pasta? It was kind of quick. What did you think of it? I'm like, it's 40 years from now. Yeah. And I'm like, you could have said something. You could have said something. You're like, I knew that it needed more salt.

Yeah, you go, I think it needed salt.

I know it did.

I know it did.

I know it did.

So I'm sorry. But we were... I accept. Yeah. But I loved that you made it and I loved eating it. It was good, right? It was really good. Yeah. The thing about salt. Yeah. It's just so important. It opens the channels. Yes, but... there's too much, it's like the stakes are really high. Too much salt is... Too much salt is actually you cannot... It's like, it's over. Should we bring in our guests? Yes. Because I mean, he's like wanting... We have a wonderful guest today. We've already been having a really fun time together that you guys didn't even get to here yet, but don't worry, we'll you may know him from the incredible podcast get played and he's in a new netflix show that is

just coming out right now called strip law i'm not to say slut town alternate title i think that's it

that's the the french title which I legit have heard is really good.

Welcome to the podcast, Matt Apataka. Thank you for having me. I'm just kind of blown away by the display of friendship for a second. You liked it? I love that because I don't know that I could tell somebody to their face. I wish it was a little bit salty. Come on, Matt. I don't know that I can. I've never sent back food at a restaurant well I don't think I would either unless it was Natalie's restaurant

and then I definitely honestly I dig yeah I dig for it

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