I Used to Hate You–What Changed My Mind
Hank Unplugged: Essential Christian Conversations
The Christian Research Institute
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🗓️ 12 February 2026
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In this clip from A Commitment to Reality, Dave and Jay talk about how we caricature people we disagree with, why actually listening to people matters, and how misconceptions can block us from thinking clearly.
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| 0:00.0 | All right, I want to start with a confession. |
| 0:02.1 | Can I tell you something? |
| 0:03.3 | Okay. |
| 0:04.1 | I used to hate you. |
| 0:05.7 | Really? |
| 0:09.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:10.6 | As a young adult, college-aged, pushing the boundaries of what I grew up with, my Christian faith, and flirting with socialism. |
| 0:20.3 | Yep. |
| 0:20.7 | And my dad would say, you've got to read |
| 0:23.6 | this guy, Jay Richards, or you've got to listen to this guy, Jay Richards. So I'd look you up. This guy |
| 0:29.1 | with the perfect hair and the shizzled jaw, classic Republican. Yes, exactly. See this guy |
| 0:36.0 | coming a mile away. Dead on arrival. I'm not giving him a chance. And so for the longest time, he would just recommend you. You got to read Money, greeting God. Money, greeting. Absolutely not. Yeah. You know what changed? What? I listened to you. Oh, okay. Okay, good. I'm glad to hear that. |
| 0:54.6 | So maybe I wasn't the caricature you imagined. |
| 0:57.4 | Just goes to show the benefit of actually hearing arguments out as opposed to the projection of what you |
| 1:03.4 | imagine them to be. |
| 1:04.5 | Absolutely. |
| 1:05.3 | Yeah, absolutely. |
| 1:06.5 | And, you know, the reality is, especially in apologetics, you can have a perfectly valid argument, but |
| 1:11.6 | if it's not delivered the right way, appropriate to the audience, it's not received. |
| 1:16.3 | And so both of those things absolutely matter. |
| 1:18.4 | And I recognize that when I'm writing about economics, especially economics. |
| 1:22.4 | People have lots of mental pictures in their imagination that I think blocks them from |
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