This is things police see.

First and accounts with your host, Steve Gold.

Welcome to the podcast at interviews, active and retired police officers,

both the most intense, bizarre, and sometimes humorous moments on the job.

It is I, old gingerface here with you as always.

Thank you for being here, guys.

Thank you for all the new subscribers and listeners. I really, really appreciate that. A lot of people coming over from the Sergeant Steve YouTube channel, which is awesome. That channel's been doing wildly well. There's over 300,000 subs on there now. I've said it before. I'll say it again. It's beyond my wildest dreams. How that channel took off. It was so cool. And the, um, and the awesome part is, too, is it's people are finding the podcast and they're really liking the long form audio stuff, which is really the reason I got into even doing any of this stuff anyway. So it's really a win-win for me. So thank you for that. And I will say if you do listen to show and you check out Sergeant Steve YouTube channel, please subscribe, hit the subscribe button.

Not just saying that, like to get more subscribers, there's plenty, but because there's kind of a

weird 72-hour shadow ban on the channel where it doesn't, the videos post, but they don't

release to the public for 72 hours. So if you're not subscribed, you're going to, you won't get the video right away or maybe not at all. So subscribe and hit the bell notification. We don't know why it's happening, but body cam footage is, it's a, it's a dicey endeavor. We have to do a lot of blurring and be very careful about subject matter. And there's no strikes on the channel, but they have decided that we need to be under this

dissent decree of YouTube. So we're being watched. So if you could do that, that would be excellent.

Very excited for today's guest comes from a gigantic police agency. I think, yeah, definitely the largest

police agency in the country. I think it's like bigger than the Coast Guard. This gentleman

is retired from the great NYPD, did 20 years. He was in patrol. He was a detective. He worked

in the special operations. He is now director of new product development for Mira Safety. He's also an instructor and speaker to resilience and mental health matters. Without further ado, let me bring on the great George Sickler. George.

Hey, Steve. Hey, brother. Thank you for coming on, man. Thank you. Yeah. So when I joined the

police department, they did say that we were larger than the U.S. Coast Guard. And at the time,

at its peak of 40 or 42,000 in my career, we were the eighth largest standing army in the world.

It's crazy. I was always so, I've always worked at smaller agencies, so I've never been part of like a big show. I did, I mean, for LAPD, I did backgrounds, but I was a civilian. I didn't, I wasn't like a cop there. So I got to work with the cops, which was cool, but I've never been part of an agency that large. And I've had guests on the past that talk about like the undercover NYPD cops they have in mosques, like overseas.

I'm like, oh my gosh, they're like the damn, they're like a damn letter alphabet agency.

You know, yes.

So what I will say, there's a couple of things they'll say, that number one, our biggest strength could also be our biggest weakness. Okay. So it's like turning an aircraft carry around when chains need to be made. It can be very hard challenge. We do have a very low, lowest common denominator. And it pains me to see my agency become the butt of many of those memes.

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