Hey there, we are Dave and Ashley Willis. Welcome back to the Naked Marriage podcast, where we

uncover God's design for lifelong love. And we are so excited to be back doing this podcast again.

So thank you again to the Naked Nation, all the listeners out there for your faithfulness to

jump back in with us as we get rolling again with the Naked Marriage podcast. This is our second

episode back. And it is a good one because we are going to be interviewing. This ministry's founder, the guy I call the Godfather of Marriage Ministry, Pastor Jimmy Evans, and he's going to share some profound wisdom with us, so you're going to want to stick around. As always, we're always going to answer a question at the end, and today's question is a good one, and Pastor Jimmy's going to weigh in on that with us as well. So stick around to the end.

Let's dive in to today's episode.

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

Well, you guys are in for a real treat with this conversation.

Pastor Jimmy, welcome back to the Naked Marriage podcast.

Thanks so much.

The Godfather of marriage ministry is among us today. That sounds a little bit, you know, criminal.

Well, it's meant to be a compliment because, yeah, I'm sure familiar, our listeners

are very familiar with Pastor Jim Evin, the founder of this ministry, also the founder

of the tipping point ministry, which we'll talk about a little bit today, prolific

author with not only marriage books, but also in-time resources.

And his book, Marriage on the Rock and Four Laws of Love is, are classics in the

marriage space.

Yes, I know in your counseling practice still recommend people, people are impacted deeply by it.

They are.

Pastor Jimmy, I didn't even get to share this with you.

But my, in my biblical counseling and coaching practice, one of my favorite marriage

resources is the four laws of love.

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