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slash UK slash AI for people. Welcome to Science Talk, the weekly podcast of Scientific American

for the seven days starting late on June 11, 2008.

I'm Steve Mursky.

This week on the podcast, a conversation with film director M. Knight Shaman.

I know, right?

Anyway, he has a new movie opening on Friday the 13th called The Happening, starring Mark Wahlberg and John Leguizamo.

Scientific American editor George Musser went to a preview of the movie in a press conference with the director.

He later interviewed M-Knight by phone, and we'll hear that.

First up, though, George, talking to me about the movie, we were at a book party for our fellow

Siam editor Mark Alpert and found a relatively quiet corner.

M-night is really toying with a lot of ideas about what is the limit of rational thought

in the film.

He actually, his protagonist in the film is a science teacher, biology teacher, who talks

at the very beginning about colony collapse disorder.

This is the bees, the problems the bees are having.

Exactly. The disappearance of the bees, and it's unexplained at this point. And he makes the point that there are certain what he calls acts of nature. That's distinct from acts of God, but they're acts of nature that science is yet to understand. And he's making a point that scientists need to be humble in the face of the uncertainty of nature.

He probably then takes it a little bit too far from my taste.

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