This episode contains descriptions of sexual assault and violence.

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Just a note about this episode, we interviewed Kim and Nina over Skype,

so the quality is not as good in some places as it is in others.

But I think, you know, as a woman and a female,

you've got to be diligent when you're out exercising and

aware of your surroundings and make smart choices. Things can happen. Yeah, things can happen

when you don't expect them till. Nina DeVore met her husband Bill when she was just out of college.

So I met my husband in Sun Valley, Idaho, and he was a flight instructor there, and I had

my first job working at one of the local newspapers.

I had met him through having to handle the Sun Valley Aviation account.

I think we're been married now 20, I think we're coming up on 29 years.

But this isn't Nina and Bill's story. This is about Nina and her sister-in-law Kim. Kim married Bill's brother, Fred, in 2005.

We met, we got married in 2000, the end of 2005. So we actually met in early 2005. And we lived about 45 miles from each other. Both of us were in business and single with two kids, which was really, really hard to meet people. and worse than that, be set up by other people.

So we actually met on the internet. He was the first person I actually replied to because I was a

little freaked out about the whole experience, but neither one of us posted a picture.

And normally you avoid, I understand you normally avoid people without a picture,

but we hit it off instant. So we actually, we were engaged probably five months after we met

and married about four months after that. And Bill and I were just excited because we got to meet Kim and Fred had been dating some other

gals and I don't know, but gals that he's been dating.

Something never worked.

So it was nice to meet someone like Kim.

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