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forward slash express. My name is Ian Bick, and you're tuned in to Locked in with Ian Bick. On this

week's episode, I interviewed the Bacaso of counterfeiting Jeff Turner.

We all make mistakes, experience failure, and fall down in life. But if you decide to get

back up and use it as fuel to your fire, you could choose to not let it define you. You can make

it through to the other side and turn it

into an opportunity. Join me, Ian Bick, as I interview people from all over the country who have

experienced the rock bottom of the American justice system and find out what they did to overcome it.

These are the stories that will motivate you and inspire you to change your life.

Jeff Turner, welcome to Locked in. Thanks for having me. The Picasso of counterfeiting as they

like to call you online. What a name. That's what they say. I'm interested to find out how you

got that name on today's interview. In my interviews, I always like to start at the person's

beginning. What was your childhood like growing up? What's your family like? Where are you from?

I was born in Sunrise, Florida, just outside of Fort Lauderdale, Miami area. I grew up in like a suburb of Tampa Bay in Clearwater, Palm Harbor. I had a pretty

normal childhood, I think, for the most part. I've got a brother and a sister, kind of like a regular

middle class family. No like nothing traumatic nothing you know pretty good childhood really played

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