"I'm Starting to Accept I'll Never Carry a Child Myself" : The Part of Surrogacy Nobody Prepared Me For

He Said, She Said

Staying Relevant Productions

Parenting, Kids & Family, Ryan Libbey, Made In Chelsea, Fertility, Therapy, Surrogacy, Babies, He Said She Said, Lifestyle, Sam Thompson, Staying Relevant, Relationships, Pete Wicks, Relationship, Louise Thompson, Kids, Society & Culture

4.3 • 888 Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

This week, Louise reflects on the often-unspoken reality of rebuilding confidence in your body after motherhood, opening up about her journey back to exercise and the ways becoming a parent has changed her perspective on beauty, self-care and the messages young girls are absorbing from the modern skincare industry.

Ryan discusses why sport matters far beyond the game itself, particularly for men, and how major events like the World Cup can create powerful opportunities for connection, belonging and conversation.

Plus, a listener question about the best advice they've ever been given leads to one of their most honest discussions yet, as Louise shares the complex emotions she's experiencing while facing the possibility that her family may be complete.

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0:00.0	Welcome back to He Said. She said, I'm Ryan and you're. Louise. Okay. You sounded like,
0:07.0	who's the character from family guy that whistles when they say an S? Oh, uh, ooh, what's
0:12.2	name? Cragmar. Is it quagma? Another guy with me. I can't remember his name. She.
0:17.2	Yes, you sounded like that. Welcome back. We've got a really exciting episode for you today.
0:22.1	Where are we starting?
0:23.2	Given that it's summer now, I thought we should talk a little bit about grooming habits.
0:27.0	Hmm.
0:28.5	I was sent a laser hair removal machine a couple of weeks ago, and I've cracked it out of the box, and I've started using it.
0:36.3	I've seen you.
0:37.2	I've seen you doing it. I know. Is that? Smells like actual burning hair in the kitchen quite often. Oh. It's quite painful as well. It looks like one of those things that's like zapping you at the same time. Potentially quite painful. Well, I don't think it's supposed to hurt. If you shave the hair closely enough to your skin, I don't think it's supposed to hurt. How do you feel
1:00.3	about me doing that in front of you? Well, the laser treatment? Yeah. I've had it, sister. Yeah,
1:05.5	it's not gross. No. A lot of people that I know got into laser when it first came out,
1:10.5	talking like 10 years ago.
1:12.2	And I never really jumped on that trend.
1:14.4	Because to be honest, I do find the idea of going into a clinic and lying their legs akimbo with your vagina out.
1:21.8	Wow.
1:22.1	We've gone from, sorry, are you going to start doing your fadge in the kitchen as well?
2:20.0	No, I think I'll be a bit more discreet with that. I know we've got great curtains. Oh, my God, curtains. Are you going to go for a full laser, full body? I think I'm, I started with the armpits just because I wanted to test it out in a small surface area and make sure that it worked. Well, I'm only one treatment in. Go on. I think you need to do it about eight times. I'll show you mine. That's disgusting. Why are you working a tank top with your pits out here today? Mine are, oh. Oh, not that effective. Not sure. Not sure it's working. They're in the regrowth phase. And then I'm going to go again this weekend. Then I got a bit ambitious and I stretched to my lower leg and then we'll see how it goes. I actually did, I like prepared to get ready for it, but I just haven't had the time. And the thing is, is I don't get a second in that bathroom in my own. Leo actually was watching me do my underarm. And it was a bit off-hitting. And then he started to get a bit freaked out by it. I think he thought I was using like a proper gun.
2:24.5	And I was kind of squealing. And so he got a bit protective. He was like, Mommy, stop.
2:28.8	Oh. I feel like it's a bit weird doing certain grooming behaviours in front of your children.
2:37.2	What I mean by that is...
2:37.9	Sorry, I'm so naive and innocent in this.
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