Welcome back to other people's lives. Welcome back. It's a beautiful day in New York today. Oh yeah. So beautiful. Uh let's see what happened today. We were supposed to work out together, but you ditched me. I had some wine at dinner last night so I couldn't.

I couldn't exactly wake up that quickly. Actually I could have woken up, which I was up. I just didn't feel like going to a box and class. Okay. To be fair, like I can't call you out. You work out a lot. Yeah. Like you're you're meaty.

I'm meaty. Yeah. I'm trying to be like a lean fit guy. You're like a meaty guy. I'm a little meaty or the new yeah for sure. That's fine. Someone's got to carry the meat. I'm trying to get down though. Okay. I'm trying to get down maybe I should go to a box and fly us with you.

Like I'll probably get rid of the gym after this. Okay. Yeah. Nice. Going on a hike tomorrow too. Oh beautiful. Yeah. Why'd you say like that? Because hikes are beautiful. Oh beautiful. I feel like my mom would say it. No, I'm just like I don't know. I was happy for you. Yeah. Get out. Get out of the city, man. That's what I'm saying. I need to get in some grass. Oh yeah.

I'm so careful. I'm I'm crazy. Sounds dangerous. I mean yeah. Yeah. You know what else is dangerous? What prison? Yeah. And we're going back. If you can't tell we're obsessed with prison. You're obsessed with prison. Okay. I am obsessed with prison. Yeah. But really any opportunity to talk about prison on the show. Like I'm taking it. Yeah.

So a little different today in the past we've spoken to a corrections officer. We spoke into fresh out of jail. Some fresh out of jail. Like a week out of jail. Right.

And today we're speaking to a woman who isn't in prison. But the man that she is in a relationship with is in prison. Right. So they met I believe through like a penpal service.

So one of those things where you actually write in get connected to a prisoner. You're exchanging letters with each other. I'm shocked you haven't done this. Me? Yeah. I'm not going to lie. After I saw the email I was thinking about doing it after. Yeah. Not not for like a relationship. But obviously. But I'm saying like for a friend. Yeah. I just be like, Oh, hey, what's going on? Yeah. I'll I'll do it. I don't doubt it. I'm shocked you haven't already. Watch me fall in love through it. Probably probably what happens. Like, oh man, my best friends all locked up. Damn.

Oh, true. Yeah. I'm going to use it like that. I really do see this for you in your future. You're going to be right. It would be interesting. They'll on a serious note. But I would. I mean, I'm like, I'm very interested in what kind of makes people gravitate towards inmates. Not that they're all like, you know, these horrible people. Because I mean, obviously there are like rapist martyrs and like whatever in prison. But there's also a lot of people that have made just like.

They're a mistake in their life. And now they're paying for it by being in prison. But you know, it's still not like there's way more people out there that haven't made a mistake that would get you locked up. So what kind of makes you gravitate towards those people? Is it like, oh man, is it badass or something?

I wonder like are there people who just want to be in relationships with prisoners? Is it a thing where like a fetish? I'm sure that's out there.

I don't know if that's her case. We'll find out. But to know that the person that you're going to essentially fall for or fall in love with, like you know, there are circumstances. Like you know, they can't call you whenever they're not going to be there on your birthday. They can't touch you. Please don't touch me. Sorry.

I just pet my face. But they can't do that. There's no like physical intimacy. So that's tough.

Like to kiss a little bit though. When you visit them, you can't like suck or fuck or anything. But conjugal visits. What? What?

What about it? Do you know what that is? No, I don't.

You're like, what? Like was that your nickname or something? Conjugal visits is I don't know how you get them. But if you're with a prisoner, you're allowed to meet and have sex. Like you go into a room and have sex during the meeting.

So some people are in relationships with prisoners and they're banging them. They get to bang when they go visit. Oh, say yeah, I don't know how often it happens, but conjugal visit. Look it up. I didn't know that was a thing to be honest with you. Oh, that's a thing. Wow. That's a thing. That's kind of dope. Yeah. If I'm a prisoner, I'm definitely out pen pal on the shit out of people. Right.

I'm trying to get some conjugal. Yeah, but I don't know. I mean, this this woman. This is the path she chose with this man. So I'm really curious. I'm so curious how it starts. Like how do you, especially if you're talking to a bunch of different prisoners, like how do you start falling in love with someone that you probably haven't met face to face. I mean, I get that because I mean, you know, out here we have the whole cat fishing thing and you have long distance or online relationship.

Like I get how you can fall in love with the way that people say certain things and your imagination runs wild and, you know, you just kind of whatever I get that part. I don't understand the part of being like, I'm going to go out and seek this in prison. Yeah, like that part. I don't understand, but I can understand how when you start and you get letters back from someone and like, especially letters are super intimate. I feel like that's true. And I get how like it could spiral into something, but the.

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