And I'm curious, do you think that being gay is a mental disorder?

You know, I'm a female, being with a female.

I mean, and if you have to look at the science of it, yes, I guess that it would be considered a mental disorder.

Welcome back to other people's lives. I'm Joe Sanigato. I'm Greg Dyback. For anyone out there

that would like to be a guest on our show, don't hesitate to reach out to us. Our email is OPL

podcast at gmail.com. Oh yeah. If you haven't noticed, we have a brand new OPL set. We're very excited. Some serious vibes

and aesthetic going on here. Kind of like an old detective's office, you get that sense.

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So yeah, if you're an audio listener, come check out our new set. We're proud of it.

But today, we are speaking to someone who reached out with the subject line.

I'm a straight conservative man trapped in a lesbian's body, and I can't stand the gay community.

So buckle up.

We have quite the conversation coming, but we've got the guest on the line. And thank you so much for being on today.

Oh, thank you for having me.

So you were born a woman. When did you first realize that you identify as a man and not just a man but a man with conservative values um i don't think

the conservatness really came until i got into my 30s they're like because i'm i'm about i'm 35 now i

don't really think it started changing until i got older um very early on um I think I was about, I knew at like sixth grade, something was like

completely off with me because even growing up as a child, I despised women's clothing.

I felt so uncomfortable.

I felt like I was just like violated in a way.

That makes sense. Very violated. My mom was very much so forcing the agenda down me to like dress like a girl, dress like a girl, be a girl, be a girl.

I mean, to a point where I used to never have a shirt on as a kid until I obviously started, you know,

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