I Know Truth About Why Epstein and Trump Fell Out

Inside Trump's Head

The Daily Beast

News, Society & Culture

4.3 • 698 Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles for part two, continuing their forensic account of Donald Trump’s long, combustible friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. Drawing on years of interviews and firsthand reporting, Wolff argues that Trump and Epstein were not casual acquaintances but intimate allies, bonded by money, sex, models, and a shared outsider resentment of New York’s elite. The episode traces how that alliance curdled into rivalry and fear—through real estate betrayals, private planes, kompromat, and the moment Epstein believed Trump turned the authorities on him. Wolff details why Epstein obsessed over Trump even after their rupture, why other powerful men fell while Trump survived, and how Epstein’s arrest and death intersected with Trump’s presidency. If Epstein was the man who knew Trump best, what does it mean that this is the one story that still visibly unnerves him? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.1	He was the best friend of Jeffrey Epstein and their friendship was clearly over women.
0:41.0	What we can say is that for over 10 years,
0:43.2	Donald Trump lived the life of a sleazeball,
0:46.8	lived a life that I think, if people understood,
0:50.8	would have disqualified him from the presidency.
0:55.4	Michael.
0:57.0	Joanna.
1:03.6	For new people to inside Trump's head, we are... We have no idea who we are.
1:05.0	We have no idea who we are.
1:06.0	I was just going to say...
1:07.0	We've just parachuted in.
1:10.2	We parachuted into inside Trump's head. This is, I was going to say
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