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The Daily Beast Podcast

I Know How Trump Will Make Things Uglier: Wolff

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

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4.6 • 8.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to dissect a White House in visible disarray, tracing a week where Donald Trump basks in the glow of a royal visit he barely understands while King Charles III delivers a devastatingly elegant rebuke—uniting Congress, charming the room, and exposing a stark contrast in leadership that may linger through the midterms. Wolff argues Trump misses the insult entirely, even as his administration spirals: looming firings, a farcical indictment of James Comey, a ballooning Hormuz crisis choking global oil markets, and a wildly unpopular White House ballroom project that feels like a metaphor for overreach. As Trump doubles down—on vengeance, on war, on spectacle—the question isn’t whether the warning signs are visible, but whether he’s capable of seeing them at all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I wonder if he knows how badly things are going for him.

0:06.0

And I think that he is beginning to get an inkling of that.

0:10.0

So then the question is, how does he respond?

0:13.0

What does he do?

0:14.0

We know he doesn't course correct, so he doubles down.

0:17.0

So I think that things are about to get, if possible, even uglier.

0:25.9

Michael.

0:27.1

Joanna, how are things in Yorkshire?

0:29.9

Well, I have to say it's really nice to see you. It's very nice to see you in touch base with

0:35.9

my New York life, my American life.

0:39.7

And I just, listen, I mentioned on our last podcast I was in Yorkshire, in my childhood home, actually,

0:46.6

because one of my parents is ailing fast, my mum is ailing fast.

0:50.6

And I was so moved and grateful for all the messages from from our regular viewers and

0:59.2

listeners many of whom have either gone through this themselves or are going through it.

1:05.0

I was shocked at the number of people who are trying to cobble together care for an

1:10.0

elder parent.

1:16.4

And so it just felt incredibly moving, actually, to hear from people.

1:20.3

And it reminded me of the piece you had written in New York Magazine.

1:23.6

I want to say about 15, 20 years ago, which had... Yeah, no, I think it was, it is 15 years ago.

1:26.7

And it's a piece, this was a piece about my mother and, and her final illness.

1:35.3

And I still hear, I still hear from people almost on a weekly basis, a piece that I wrote 15 years ago, because it is true.

1:46.0

Everybody, everybody goes through this experience.

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