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Deadline: White House

“I hope he’s loyal to me”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

News, Ms Now, The White House, Versant, Daily News, Government, Politics, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Nicolle Wallace

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2023

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses the latest comments from the ex-president not so subtly applying pressure to his former chief of staff Mark Meadows, new reporting on the testimony of a former aide in Jack Smith’s investigation of classified documents, Ukraine aid’s newfound precarity in the Republican-controlled House ahead of President Zelenskyy’s visit to the U.S., the dangerous spread of election denialism, and more. Joined by: Andrew Weissmann, Katie Benner, Frank Figliuzzi, Katie Phang, Mike Schmidt, Tim Miller, Mary McCord, Eddie Glaude, Rep. Eric Swalwell, Barry McCaffrey, and Masih Alinejad.

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone.

0:06.8

Happy Mondays, 4 o'clock in New York.

0:08.6

Mark Meadows woke up this morning to the grim new reality that he's now in a legal

0:13.1

vice.

0:14.3

On the one side, legal moves and mistakes of his own making, as detailed in blockbuster

0:18.8

new reporting this morning in the New York Times.

0:21.2

And on the other, an ex-boss who's not even pretending at this point to not talk like

0:26.6

a mob boss.

0:27.9

On that New York Times account, quote, one morning last month in an Atlanta federal

0:31.7

courtroom, Mark Meadows, former President Trump's final chief of staff, was in the hot seat.

0:38.0

And he was the one who had put himself there.

0:40.5

Meadows lawyer had made the surprise move of asking his client to testify in an effort

0:45.7

to have the Georgia election interference case against him move to a federal court.

0:51.0

A venue where his chances of acquittal are even having the case thrown out.

0:55.2

Maybe a bit better than in the state court where he has been charged.

0:59.1

The New York Times goes on to report on how Meadows likely did himself grave legal harm,

1:04.8

with an exchange in which Meadows appears to lie about his own role in the fake electors

1:09.1

plot from that Times reporting quote, Meadows hit a snag, and a prosecutor asked whether

1:14.6

he had quote any role in coordinating the bogus electors who were used in a last-ditch

1:20.6

effort to keep Trump in power after he lost the 2020 election.

1:25.0

No, I did not, he replied, prosecutor then introduced into the record a December 2020

1:32.0

email that Mr. Meadows wrote to a Trump campaign staff member.

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