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yourself at Xander.com. I got mixed up back in maybe 2016 with a guy from my gym. Long story

short, he was running the LLCO supposedly.

And, um, I was investing into a, uh, high interest savings account.

Um, so basically I got scam, long story short.

Uh, he got me for 38 grand.

Oh, no.

And then I hired lawyers and everything like that. Um, so I, all in all, I was out maybe like 40, about 45 grand.

Oh my gosh, George.

I'm so sorry.

Was it like a Ponzi scheme kind of thing or like a like or he would take your money and invest, you know, put it somewhere else thinking he would make a difference and then he ended up not and lost all your money? Exactly. Oh, man. So, I, you know, again, this is before I met you guys. I wish I wouldn't have met you guys sooner, but that's done. So it's kind of a thorn on my side because I'm trying to figure out whether I should continue going after him because I already went to court.

We already got the judgment. He didn't show up and everything like that. You know, he got

served and everything. But the thing is, you know, I had to learn about the law because the judgment

is just basically a piece of paper right now because he got rid of all of it. Exactly.

If he doesn't have assets, he doesn't have income income you can garnish. There's not much they can do.

That's basically what I want to do. When you say you've been chasing for four years,

who has actually been the person trying to track him down and get him to pay?

I hired a debt collection company, and then at first it was, you know, it was free and everything like that because, you know, they get paid, I get paid kind of deal.

But then after maybe like a year or two, then they asked me if I wanted to like increase the some kind of excuse they gave me.

And it was like another two grand or whatever I think to push stuff forward because this is during the pandemic. Yeah. So to push like paperwork for it. And so that added to the money that I'm out. And I wanted to see if you guys think I should just count it as a loss or just, you know, because without assets, you know, now that I know that, it's just. Yeah, that's my fear. You spend $25,000 chasing this guy down, and then it turns out you don't get a dime from him. Well, now you just lost another $25,000. So it may be time to emotionally write this off and call it a stupid tax and move on. Yeah. If it's been four years. I mean, this is, this is weighing on you. It's living rent-free in your head, and I think it's time to move on. People do all kinds of dumb moves and lose 40 grand. You know, I went in 40 grand to consumer debt back in the day, and so I'm going to chalk it up to a life lesson that was hard to learn and never let it happen again. Got you. Okay. I figured that. I'm so sorry, man. I'm sorry, George. I'm like when I, I'm like a dog who's like, I want to get this guy. You want justice, right? I want to go full John Wick, man, you know, but at some point. And it was $38,000, you know? It's not $3,800. Like, that's a lot of money. A lot of money. It's a lot of money. But the crazy thing is,

is I do think once you emotionally kind of just get over it, right? You detach and you're like,

okay, I am moving on. You start to really, really see what you can do and what you have the

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