It's like you're on a subway and you're on a local and you're just kind of going down the

down the line and you fall asleep or you have your headphones on and you don't hear it

but it turned into an express somewhere and then you wake up and you're in Coney Island and you're like how did I get here like that's kind of how it felt like one day I was just like and now I'm doing heroin every day.

This is death, sex and money. I tried to kill myself with a lady back.

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

I've never given a friend kiss before.

I need to talk about more.

Six thousand dollars, it's not even leather.

I'm Anna Sale. I first met my friend Danielle in 2009.

We were both living in Brooklyn and we carpooled together to see a friend preach at a Unitarian church in Queens.

And we went to I-hop after. preach at a Unitarian Church in Queens.

We went to I-HOP after.

We went to I-HOP after.

We totally did.

Yeah.

That was when my marriage was falling apart. That's right. And you were at that point like a year sober. I was a year sober.

Just over a year, probably a year and a half.

But I remember I was in like the drudges of okay-cupid dating nightmare.

Hell.

And so we both had a lot going on.

I didn't know Danielle when she was using heroin and we never

really talked about that time in her life and I wanted to know more about it because

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