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Note to Self

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4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2017

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

And other fibs we tell our friends, family and lovers. Psychotherapist Esther Perel is back to call us on our bullsh*t.

This is the second of our two-parter on how our phones create such intimacy and such distance. Esther’s new book is The State of Affairs: Rethinking Infidelity. Listen to part one here.

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0:00.0

Hello, my name is Jessica. I'm from Keller, Texas. I have been ghosted, but not by a romantic

0:10.6

interest, but by a friend. We had been friends for about a year and a half when he just completely

0:18.9

disappeared. Me and some other friends, you know, we tried getting a hold of him through

0:24.2

various means. We couldn't find them. We thought something bad had happened. We were wondering

0:32.1

if we should contact hospitals. We had been checking obituaries because we just had no

0:39.1

idea why he vanished so thoroughly. And it was really hard. I finally got a hold of his

0:48.7

brother who confirmed that he was alive and well and totally fine. Just, you know, not responding

0:58.3

to us at all for whatever reason. People are suffering of aloneness. That social isolation isn't

1:08.7

unrelated to ghosting, to the lack of accountability. These things are all part of one large picture.

1:15.4

Take five minutes and just ask yourself, who do I owe a phone call to? Who do I need to check in

1:21.1

with that I haven't checked in with? Who did I leave hanging and never went back to? No to

1:27.6

self. It's not your imagination. It is becoming socially normal to just get busy and disappear on your

1:35.0

friends and family. And it's happening all over the place. But is it acceptable? I'm a new

1:42.0

summer Odie and it's my job to help you focus on what really matters to you in this crazy accelerating

1:49.2

world. And this is episode two of a fascinating conversation with renowned therapist Esther Perrell

1:56.4

about the way our relationships are changing. Last week we focused on the romantic. We're still

2:02.8

going to go there today. But this conversation extends beyond our partners to our families, our

2:09.1

friends and our co-workers. I mean, is there a way to change this to demand more accountability

2:15.8

from each other without sounding, I don't know, funny, dirty, and old fashioned. So we've talked

2:25.3

about the person who's being ghosted. We've talked about the person being iced or simmered. But what about

2:29.7

the person doing all this? So, you know, I met this lady recently. It was very interesting.

2:35.1

Wonderful woman we're talking. And she said, you know, even I, I've changed. If I go out on a date

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