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The EntreLeadership Podcast

I Can’t Figure Out How Much to Spend on Payroll

The EntreLeadership Podcast

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Entrepreneurship, Business, Management

4.74.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Today we’ll hear about:  A business owner wondering how much of her revenue she should allocate to payroll  The key differences between a controller and a CFO  Why Dave Ramsey hates job descriptions and what he thinks is a better option  How to give money to charity with business profits    Next Steps:  📞 Have a question for the show? Call 844-944-1070 or send us a message: https://ter.li/ask-us  📚 Learn about the EntreLeadership System: https://ter.li/system-p  💻 Get EntreLeadership Elite for your business: https://ter.li/elite-p  ✉️ Sign up to receive tactical tools, advice and resources in your inbox every week: https://ter.li/enl  🏢 Attend EntreLeadership Summit: https://ter.li/summit   🎤 Attend EntreLeadership Master Series: https://ter.li/masterseries   📖 Order Dave’s new book, Build a Business You Love: https://ter.li/b4kru2  📃Build your KRA for free: https://ter.li/ks4jnp    Connect With Our Sponsors:  💼 Go to Belay Solutions or text ENTRE to 55123 for their free resource!  💻 Visit NetSuite today to learn more.  🧾 Visit Payority for a free consultation!  📈 Get started with Sales Gravy’s free resource, The Small Business Owner’s Guide to Hiring Salespeople.  📝 Use code ENTRE15 to get 15% off your first year of Trainual.    Listen to More From Ramsey Network:  🪑 Front Row Seat with Ken Coleman  🎙️ The Ramsey Show  💸 The Ramsey Show Highlights  🧠 The Dr. John Delony Show  🍸 Smart Money Happy Hour  💡 The Rachel Cruze Show  💰 George Kamel    Ramsey Solutions Privacy Policy

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0:00.0

From the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, this is the Entree Leadership podcast, where I take calls from

0:15.1

leaders like you about what it takes to win at any stage of business and leadership.

0:20.4

I'm Dave Ramsey, your host with over 30 years of experience leading in the trenches right alongside you.

0:26.4

If you want to submit a question, go to entrell leadership.com slash ask,

0:30.3

or you can leave a voicemail, and either way, we'll get you set up to be a caller here.

0:34.6

Voicemail numbers 844-944-1070. That's 844-944-1070. Kaley is in Portland, Oregon. Hi,

0:45.0

Kaylee. How are you? Hi, I'm good. Thank you so much for taking my call. Sure. What's up?

0:50.2

So I own a small, low-volume dog grooming salon. I have three full-time employees and one part-time,

0:57.7

and last year we did $422,000 in sales. My question is, is there a certain percentage, just a general

1:06.5

rule that I should be aiming for for my payroll to be at given that I'm fully service-based

1:12.9

with no retail, any other income sources.

1:16.3

No, that would change from industry to industry.

1:19.6

What you should be looking for is a return on investment.

1:23.9

Obviously, in other words, you've got to make more per groomer that you hire than that groomer costs you.

1:32.2

So if you put someone out to do grooming, did you say it's mobile?

1:36.6

No, it's a salon.

1:37.6

It's in the salon.

1:38.3

Okay.

1:38.6

So if you put someone in a bay, so to speak, and you set that bay up with equipment,

1:43.9

and you put them in there and you

1:44.9

pay them. The cost of that equipment plus the cost of that payroll, then what's the grooming

1:50.3

income versus my cost, right? As if it is a little individual standalone business.

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