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The Perfect Scam

I Borrowed Money for the Russian Mob, Part 3

The Perfect Scam

AARP

True Crime, Aarp, Fraud, Society & Culture, Scam, Crime, Bobsullivan

4.5980 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

When Therin Miller walks into the FBI office to throw himself on the mercy of the government, he’s not sure if he will leave a free man. To clear his name, he becomes an FBI informant, recording conversations with his roommate and business partner, Brant Holloway, and his associate Lyle Livesay. Therin’s work results in indictments on multiple counts of bank fraud related to the luxury car scheme, plus the arrest of a Russian mobster in Ukraine. But even with the criminals behind bars, will Therin’s life ever go back to normal?

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0:00.0

This week on The Perfect Scam.

0:03.0

I want my life to go back to normal.

0:05.0

I didn't mean for any of this to happen.

0:07.0

My intentions were never to defraud or scam anybody.

0:11.0

My intentions were never to be involved with the Russian mom.

0:20.2

Welcome back to the perfect scam. I'm your host Bob Sullivan.

0:24.0

When we left Thiren Miller, he had just made the painful choice to walk into the FBI's

0:30.0

Oklahoma City Bureau and tell them he'd got mixed up and a loan fraud scam.

0:35.3

But this is no ordinary scam.

0:37.4

Tharin's girlfriend, Kirsten Strickler, believes he's tangled up with a luxury car crime ring that's based in Florida, run by a

0:44.9

Russian mob figure. She'd convinced Tharin not to go to Florida in a desperate

0:50.2

attempt to get back the half million dollars that he'd borrowed and then given to his quote-unquote

0:56.3

business partners Grant Holloway who's also Theren's roommate and Lyle Lives, the finance guy who's in Miami. Instead, Tharin has gone to the FBI with his story,

1:08.4

afraid they might arrest him on the

1:15.0

spot but hoping he can somehow straighten the whole thing out.

1:14.0

An agent takes notes, sends him away, and then Therin must wait,

1:19.0

while living with Brandt.

1:21.0

It's the longest week of his life. You can hear all those details in

1:25.8

episodes 1 and 2 if you haven't listened already, but today we conclude our three-part

1:31.1

series, I borrowed money for the Russian mob.

1:34.7

And we begin with Thyrin finally getting that call back from the FBI.

1:39.4

He says, yeah, you need to come down to the office. I need to meet with you.

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