Hello there and welcome to the Thinking Fellows podcast.

My name is Caleb and today I am joined by John Hoyum and Philip Bartelt.

Both John and Phil are members of the Junior Fellowship at 1517.

You can go to 1517.org for it slash contributors to see the fellows list.

Junior fellows are people who are still in the midst of their education or have been called

as pastor but don't have a ton of experience yet and things like that.

We have a couple people on that list.

You can go check it out.

Phil's looking at me like glaring.

And by Phil, I mean by a ton of experience, I mean, literally zero days yet. So I mean, I just received my call. Yeah, I know. I mean, no fault of

your own, but literally zero. So yeah, yeah, that's true. Phil, maybe film, maybe, uh,

maybe tell, tell the listeners a little bit about your next venture in ministry.

That's true.

That's true.

So I just got a call to serve at a congregation in Brooklyn, New York.

It's called the Zion German Evangelical Lutheran Church.

But it actually has a German title and German speakers.

So it's a bilingual congregation.

And even though I am LCMS, the congregation is ELCA slash independent.

They're trying to move away from the ELCA.

And one of the things that I'll be doing is catechizing them and bringing them liturgically,

doctrinally, into the LCMS.

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