Welcome everyone to Family Talk. It's a ministry of the James Dobson Family Institute, supported by listeners just like you.

I'm Dr. James Dobson, and I'm thrilled that you've joined us.

Well, hello, everyone, and welcome to a very special edition of Family Talk, the broadcast ministry of the Dr. James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Roger Marsh, and I'm joined in studio by Gary Bauer, our senior vice president of public policy here at the James Dobson Policy Center.

Gary, it's always great to have you and especially great to have you with us today.

Well, same here, Roger. I really enjoyed the opportunities we have to do some of these shows and

to both express how much we care about this great country and, of course, Dr. Dobson's ministry.

And this is, I think, a particularly important show for people to hear.

Absolutely. On today's program, we are going to turn the spotlight on the celebration of the birth of our great nation. We're going to hear a special presentation from Dr. Dobson, titled, I Believe in American Patriotism. And Gary, I know this is a topic that's very dear and dear to doctor's heart. It's also very near and dear to your heart as well.

You know, it is, Roger.

I grew up in a family that economically was challenged.

I mean, we, I remember the paycheck tended to last until Friday, but the bills went on into the next week.

And my parents... I think the expression is there was more month than money.

That is exactly the expression.

I remember that.

No, so...

But I'll tell you, one thing we were rich in,

and that was love of country.

My father was in the First Marine Corps Division in World War II,

and he saw things and had to do things that when I finally broke him down to share them with me, and that took many years, I couldn't

believe what he told me.

They were things that it was almost impossible to imagine.

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