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You are now listening to True Murder, the most shocking killers in True Crime

History, and the authors that have written about them. Gacy, Bundy,

Domer, the Night Stalker, BTK, every week, another fascinating author talking

about the most shocking and infamous killers in True Crime History. True Murder,

with your host, journalist and author, Dan Zufanski.

Good evening. As a child, I was known as Jessica Pele. When I was nine, I went to a

sleepover at a friend's house for the weekend. While I was away, my entire family

was murdered. I would spend the next 30 years fighting, crawling, and clawing my way through

the darkness. This wasn't just a national news headline, a cold case or a true crime show.

It was my family and my life. I was the broken little girl left behind to tell this story.

I am now Jesse. In the pages of this unapologetic memoir, set free. The book

that we're featuring this evening is, I am Jessica, a survivor's powerful story of healing

and hope with my special guest, Jesse Toronjo, and author, Jamie Collins. Welcome to the program,

and thank you very much for agreeing to this interview. Jamie Collins. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much. Yes, thank you. Before we start, and not to get ahead of ourselves at all,

because we're going to have, we take this, we want to take this audience right back to 1989,

and well before that to talk about your family, Jesse. Tell us how you, Jamie and Jesse are

related. You're cousins, so let's get that. How are you related?

We are, Kuzn. This is Jamie. We're cousins, and my mom, Marla, is the sister of her dad, Ed.

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