Now that we hit right finally got it we finally made it to the spot very exclusive and this is a very exclusive establishment the underappreciated podcast ladies of gentlemen

So I'm here to explain to you my guess I'm finally going to show you my guess if you can see why I'm at right now you might have idea but you have no idea

Survey says bringing out my brother my close friend Jeff Hamilton legendary jacket designer product pusher culture pusher my brother my twin

Brother yes sir me to be with you so look the whole world wants to know one thing how you able to push P this long push in P as a product premium level premium everything you're like now

It's just it's very simple. It's just passion you know like pushing passion pushing passion that's a piece for passion so it's like

I at the stage of the game I've been doing it for so long that I'm there's no the motivation is is part of my way of life I just want to be out there I want to it's not even a hustle

It's just blessed to be able to to have the universe or God

Allow me to do things that I love to do and and and just being part of the culture and try to to create more and try to always be better and better as I can

If I can well people have no idea how part of the coach you are we're gonna get to that but you know let's let's let's let the world know for the viewers that are watching right now and the people that are listening where you come from like where's your background where you like where do you come from I was born in Morocco North Africa and

We're a 10 years old and moved to France and just you know went through my studies you know math and physics and graduated married one was 19 years old and just had always the American dream loved

Everything about America and when I was 44 I moved to America just moved with a wife and two kids and

Six thousand dollars at a time wow and that was 1980 and just you know what I was gonna do I had no idea what I was gonna look how it turns out six thousand

Dollars you turn into its millions I just had no idea what what what you know I loved I loved fashion but didn't have any experience at all in fashion never

Designed a thing in my life I thought I had good taste I mean that I had you know I was doing a little art here and there for myself you know never and one thing led to the other when I moved in I was looking for a job

Confined it and I basically start hustling kind of for like a better word like meaning working hard not

Hustle was key but they buying from a store selling from the store and have you ever interned for anybody?

No I never worked for anybody in my life wow so what I think was and I always tried to stay true to that not to work for anybody just to keep always that identity that I had and the independence so

So I started buying and selling from store to store and I'm making a living you know to support my family very humble living

And then I ran into some French people at the time which you became very close friends at the time and they just had started a new company

And the company was guest chains wow so they started the company and so you was doing dinner before that no I was not doing that no no so so before I even so when I met those people

I basically we start talking they want me to work for them like I said I never work for anybody and I knew the concept of licensing so I asked them to give me the rights to the menswear

So I started the menswear in 1983 and without having any idea of designing anything I didn't even know you needed to create a pattern to create a piece of clothing

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