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Podcasts today I have a long conversation with Leonidas Johnson.

He's the host of the podcast Informed Descent. He also has a website you can visit

Leonidas Johnson.com. We have a deep long conversation about what it is to be a man, about race, about culture.

We have a conversation that I think many would hope to cancel, but I think this conversation with a guy who I've really come to respect lays out not just where we are, but hopefully a path forward where we can go to heal as Americans. And I will tell you this for what it's worth,

because I guess for some reason it's necessary and doesn't come up until later in the conversation.

I'm white.

Leonidas Johnson is black.

Do what you will with that.

Enjoy.

To Leonidas, you and I were hanging out about a week ago on Fox News prime time.

I was glad to have you on the program and you said something on the show that I've seen

you say on Twitter as well and I like it a lot.

You said we need to begin to think about race in the same way

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