This is the recent interview with Nick Gillespie. Thanks for coming out. In the wake of massive victories by Donald Trump and Republicans in the 2024 elections, here's a question worth asking. How did the GOP go from being the party of free trade and foreign wars to the party of tariffs and non-interventionism? My guests today are Hiram Lewis and Verlin Lewis, two brothers who are college professors

and the authors of the book The Myth of Left and Right.

They argue that the way we talk about the political spectrum misleads and confuses us because

it reduces complex coalitions to one or two issues that really aren't representative of what the parties actually stand for.

Here is the Reason interview with Hiram Lewis and Verlin Lewis.

All right, Hiram Lewis and Verlin Lewis.

Thank you so much for talking to Reason.

It's my pleasure.

Thanks for having us.

All right.

So you guys are brothers.

You wrote a book called Myth of Left and Right, which it was one of the most impressive books or most relevant books

that I've read in a very long time when it came out, reason reviewed it.

It showed up in a lot of different places.

And now we have this election to talk about.

So we're going to talk about how, you know, what is your version of kind of ideology and political coalition building in the book?

And how does it map on to the election that we just had?

Let me throw this out first, I guess for Hiram.

We'll start with.

What's the elevator pitch of myth of left and right?

Yeah, so I can make it real simple and real concise.

Our thesis is this, that there's more than one issue in politics.

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