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HVAC School - For Techs, By Techs

HVAC/R Conductor, Breaker, and Fuse Selection

HVAC School - For Techs, By Techs

Bryan Orr

Training, Careers, Airconditioning, Self-improvement, Hvac, Business, Education, Refrigeration, Heating, Ac, Apprenticeship

4.8985 Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2018

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In this podcast episode, Phil Barr joins Bryan to explain sizing for wires and breakers in HVAC/R work. You will be able to select breakers, conductors, and fuses properly and without confusion. Phil Barr is the leader of the electrical division at our business.

HVAC/R equipment may have hermetically sealed motors. Unlike squirrel-cage motors, hermetically sealed motors have an outer shell that makes it impossible to access the inner components. Semi-hermetic equipment, such as some compressors, look like hermetic equipment but can open up. Wire sizing varies between hermetically and non-hermetically sealed motors, and the NEC explains the wire sizing requirements, but YOU need to know the context for those requirements.

Once you know your equipment type, check the nameplate with a rating, such as MCA, RLC, branch circuit selection, etc. The manufacturer will establish that rating, and you will use it to look up the correct wire sizing requirements. Wire insulation and conductor type also dictate the sizing and installation requirements. Conductor length and voltage drop also affect wire sizing.

Fuses or circuit breakers prevent shorts. Shorts are undesigned paths with little to no resistance, so fuses and circuit breakers protect equipment and buildings from overcurrent due to shorts, NOT thermal overload. So, you use MOCP as a guideline for sizing your breakers. Thermal overload protection keeps conductors from melting under overload conditions.

If you want a breaker that is under the MOCP value but it exceeds the MCA and the terminations are rated correctly, you can typically use a breaker between the MCA and MOCP. However, you will still want to follow manufacturer recommendations and check with your AHJ.

Phil and Bryan also discuss:

  • MCA (minimum circuit ampacity)
  • "Undersized" conductors in new constructions
  • Reducing voltage drop
  • MOCP and related terms
  • Inrush current
  • Adjustment factors
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0:00.0

This episode of the HVAC School Podcast is made possible by our generous sponsors and partners, which is carrier, Mitsubishi Comfort, refrigeration technologies makers of Nylog as well as Viper products and several other products

0:16.4

that we really enjoy here at Kailos, as well as the UEOI Wireless Hub Kit, the Hub hub six which is the complete kit hub four which is the

0:26.6

refrigeration probes and temperature clamps and hub two which is the air

0:31.2

temperature and humidity probes induct air temperature and humidity probes.

0:34.0

Induct, air temperature and humidity probes.

0:36.8

You can find the refrigeration technologies products

0:39.0

as well as the UEEI hub wireless kits

0:41.2

by going to true tech tools.com that's TRU tech tools

0:44.6

and use get schooled at check out for a great discount. All right so this episode

0:50.8

today is a rebroadcast of an episode that I did on my new

0:54.4

podcast the new Blue Color Roots podcast called the Electrical Code and

0:58.8

Tips podcast with my friend and co-host Phil Barr. Phil Barr works with me in my company Kalo Services and he is a

1:06.6

licensed electrician he heads up our electrical department we actually have several

1:09.7

licensed electricians certified electricians in the state of Florida in my company.

1:15.1

And so we talk through codes and today it happens to be a crossover episode because we're talking

1:18.8

about sizing conductors for HVACR equipment.

1:22.3

And for any of you who are on social media,

1:24.0

you know what a hot button topic this is.

1:26.0

There have been several memes made about this topic.

1:28.0

Specifically, whether or not you can

1:30.0

ever put a number 12 wire out of 50-mbreaker.

1:32.0

The answer is you can, and listen to find out why that is according to the National Electrical Code and under what circumstances that is?

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