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The Tikvah Podcast

Hussein Aboubakr Mansour on Why the End of Palestinian Nationalism Can Bring Hope to Palestinians

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6620 Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Last February, the Egyptian-American intellectual Hussein Aboubakr Mansour wrote an article in which he considered the possibility of a new idea of Palestinian nationalism. The IDF was destroying Hamas. The remnant of the Palestinian Authority’s legitimacy and trust among the frustrated Palestinians—already weak—was decaying at an accelerated rate. The grotesque complicity of UNRWA in Hamas’s crimes might yet deal enough of a blow to the international Palestine-human-rights complex that Mansour could allow himself to hope that the old idea of Palestine might be susceptible to being replaced by something different, something more constructive. A consequence of Hamas activating a series of events that led to war and defeat and destruction might also lead to an opportunity to re-found Palestinian nationalism on healthier foundations.

 

One year later, after watching Palestinians in Gaza cheering the remains of the Bibas children, murdered in Gaza and then kept as monstrous ransom, Mansour recently revised the possibility of a renewed Palestinian nationalism, and in light of all that has transpired, came to a different conclusion altogether.

 

Today, Hussein Aboubakr Mansour, a research fellow at the Institute for the Study of Global Antisemitism & Policy and contributor to Mosaic, joins Jonathan Silver to discuss his essay, “Why There Should Not Be a Palestine,” published on his Substack, the Abrahamic Critique and Digest.

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Last February, the Egyptian-American intellectual Hussein Abu Bakr Mansour wrote an article

0:13.0

in which he considered the possibility of a new idea of Palestinian nationalism.

0:17.7

The IDF was destroying Hamas, the remnant of the Palestinian authorities' legitimacy

0:22.1

and trust among the Palestinians was already weak and was decaying at an even accelerated rate.

0:28.3

The grotesque complicity of UNRWA in Hamas' crimes might yet deal enough of a blow to the

0:34.5

international Palestine human rights complex that, back then, Hussein could allow

0:39.4

himself to hope that the old idea of Palestine might be susceptible to being replaced

0:45.4

by something different, something more constructive. A consequence of Hamas activating a series

0:51.1

of events that led to war and defeat and destruction might then also lead

0:56.8

to an opportunity to refound Palestinian nationalism on healthier grounds. That was the subject

1:02.9

of some writing that Hussein published just over one year ago. One year later, after watching

1:08.6

Palestinians in Gaza cheering the remains of the Bebas children,

1:12.1

murdered, and then kept as monstrous ransom, Hussein recently revised his own thinking

1:18.0

about the possibility of a renewed Palestinian nationalism, and in light of all that's transpired,

1:23.7

has come to a very different conclusion altogether.

1:27.0

Welcome to the Tikva podcast. I'm your host,

1:29.4

Jonathan Silver. Hussein Abu Bakr Mansour is a research fellow at the Institute for the Study of

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of Global Anti-Semitism and Policy. He is a contributor to Mosaic. His substack, where both of the

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essays we're focusing on today were originally published is the Abrahamic critique and digest.

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