This is Ovious and Jillio.

Let's podcast alongside Dimitri Ravanos.

I'm Joe Ovius inside Eifford Studios in downtown Raleigh.

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Yeah, that's fine.

He's probably fine.

Like, I'm not knocking it.

I mean, let's be fair.

He just told me, hey, man, Monday I'm not here. I'm like, okay, cool, I'll get the meat tree. But I forgot why. Yeah, I mean, let's be fair, Joe. a real job. You can say whatever you want to not commit. I mean, I take offense to that.

Well, I mean, I mean for Giulio, not for you. No, I take offense to that. Well, I mean, I mean for Giulio, not for you.

No, I take offense to that too.

Oh, okay.

There's a lot of back end things that Jillio has to deal with.

That's why he's the CFO.

I see.

And I'm the CTO.

You know me, man.

I don't want to, like, I don't touch the money stuff.

I hear you I don't touch the money stuff just like I don't want him touching the cameras

hmm it's like no oh did he get the same pissy text that I didn't yes okay good it's set up for a reason

this way don't touch it just like I'm sure jillies like don't touch the bank account so I'm like I

cool I respect it so yeah that's that's insulting, Dimitri.

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