The ocean is vast, beautiful, and lawless.

I'm Ian Urbina back with an all-new season of the Outlaw Ocean.

The stories we bring you this season are literally life or death.

We look into the shocking prevalence of forced labor,

mind-boggling overfishing, migrants hunted and captured. The outlaw ocean takes

you where others won't. Available on CBC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts.

This is a CBC podcast.

What does a young female reporter do when they receive a cold call from one of the most horrific serial killers in Canadian history?

The killer, Clifford Olson, who murdered 11 children in the 1980s, maybe more.

And the reporter? Well, that's me.

Hi, I'm Arlene Bynan. I'm a journalist and radio broadcaster.

And I'm the host of Calls from a Killer, a brand new season of CBC's Uncover.

Clifford Olson began calling me over three decades ago. I recorded my jailhouse calls with him

for years. When he was locked away, there was no doubt authorities thought the story was over, but it wasn't.

Alongside legendary journalist Peter Worthington, I spent hundreds of hours on the phone with Olson.

It was kept secret from his prison guards since he wasn't allowed to speak to the media.

In calls from a killer, I revisit those tapes and unearthed secrets that have been buried for decades.

With Nathaniel Frum, Peter's grandson, I expose hard truths about a forgotten tragedy,

a bungled investigation, and the mind of a psychopath.

Now here's the first episode of Calls from a Killer, from CBC's Uncover. Have a listen.

The following episode contains strong language and descriptions of violence.

Please take care when listening.

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