In this episode of the Hunting Gear Podcast, host Dan Johnson speaks with Drake Adams and Dustin Harding from Athlon Optics about the evolution of optics in hunting, focusing on thermal optics. They discuss the differences between first and second focal plane scopes, the impact of rising costs on hunting, and the growing interest in thermal technology. The conversation also covers the demographics of thermal optics users and the environmental considerations for using these devices. In this conversation, Drake Adams discusses the intricacies of thermal optics, focusing on their functionality, user experience, and the growing popularity of these devices in hunting. He addresses common concerns regarding the use of thermal optics, emphasizing the importance of responsible hunting practices. Adams highlights the advantages of choosing Athlon thermal optics, including their competitive pricing, customer support, and warranty services. The conversation also touches on the technological aspects of thermal optics and their manufacturing processes. Takeaways:  Dan Johnson introduces the podcast and guests from Athlon Optics. Drake Adams shares his experience and role at Athlon Optics. Dustin Harding discusses his role in product development and marketing. The importance of listening to consumer needs in optics design. The shift from second to first focal plane optics in hunting. The impact of rising costs on hunting and optics purchases. The growth of thermal optics and its appeal to hunters. Understanding the differences between thermal and night vision optics. The calibration process for thermal optics is automatic. Thermal optics are weatherproof but have limitations in high humidity. Detection range decreases with humidity. Thermal optics have a built-in battery system. Battery life can last up to 10 hours. User-friendly features make thermal optics accessible. Thermal hunting extends the hunting season. Concerns about poaching are addressed by responsible use. Athlon offers competitive pricing for performance. Customer service is a priority for Athlon. Thermal optics can be powered externally. Manufacturing quality has improved over time. Our Sponsors: * Check out Thompson Cigars and use my code SE for a great deal: https://thompsoncigar.com * Check out Troll Co Clothing and use my code EMPIRE25 for a great deal: https://www.trollco.com/hunting Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy