When his wife became pregnant with their fourth child, Greg panicked, but a focus on the family counselor put everything into perspective.

He said, the first thing you need to realize that kids are a blessing or all of the

blessings that their gifts from God and the second thing you said was kid value

relationships not stuff. I'm Jim Daly let's give more families hope. Any gift you send will be doubled at

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I think it's safe to say that the people you spend time with affect your

character and how you live your life. I'm John Fuller along with Greg Smalley

and Greg this is true even in marriage right?

Absolutely this is true. I remember John in graduate school I had a friend not a

super close friend but fellow student we'd study together hang out together who was super super

negative about his wife. They were just going through some really hard times and I

remember all of a sudden I was noticing the things that Aaron was doing that was frustrating and disappointing

and it just began to cloud my vision. That's what I began to focus on because that's what he was focusing on.

Yeah and sometimes we're not even aware that this is the case.

These other folks are speaking into our lives intentionally or unintentionally. We're going to hear now from Phil and Kay Robertson. You may

know them from the very popular TV show Duck Dynasty. They have a powerful story about

how the people in their lives were able to help when things got really

tough in their marriage. Here's Jim Daly.

It wasn't smooth if I read your book correctly. I mean there was a lot of rough spots and I really want to dig into that Phil because I think one of the things

that people love about you is how open you are.

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