Humberto-Kirk Fight Trilogy
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
4.5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 10 July 2023
⏱️ 65 minutes
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00:00 Humberto's breakthrough
09:08 Apologizing to younger brothers & childhood anger
17:56 Acting out of hurt & identifying the cause
26:55 Being hurt in a debate
49:10 Practicing self-awareness & recognizing hurt
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July 10, 2023
The Psychology In Seattle Podcast ®
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| 0:00.0 | So, Burdo, some questions that I have for you, let's get into it. What do you say? Let's do it. |
| 0:05.6 | This is the Psychology and Seattle podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kirkhan. I'm a therapist and a |
| 0:09.3 | professor. My name is Umberto Kassen, yeah. I am sort of a carpenter, but it's really hard for me. |
| 0:14.8 | So, one of our recent episodes, we had a fight and then we cried. Yes. And then afterwards, |
| 0:23.2 | we stopped recording and you're walking out the door and I'm walking you out and we're standing |
| 0:29.4 | there on my walkway outside and you're just like, oh my God, dude, I think I had a legit break |
| 0:34.6 | today. Yeah. And I'm thinking, wow, you know, because, you know, there's self-awareness, of course, |
| 0:41.4 | is great and there's always advances. But sometimes there's leaps. Yeah. And the way you were talking, |
| 0:48.7 | I was like, huh, but then I'm thinking, well, maybe he's just kind of riding high off the |
| 0:54.0 | well. Then the next day, you say, oh my God, I'm still having breakthroughs. I talked with my |
| 1:00.0 | brother. Yeah. And what happened? Right. Because during our second conversation, we got to this |
| 1:10.3 | point where I, you know, I was like, okay, okay, hold on. I think we both did this. We're like, wait, |
| 1:16.0 | is there something we're missing here? And on my side, I was like, all right, maybe there is |
| 1:19.8 | something to this where I double down on arguments. What's the deal? And that's where I pulling that |
| 1:25.1 | thread. I was like, well, why is that? And then we had our breakthrough moment. And I was like, well, |
| 1:30.1 | I'm hurt. I feel this way. And all this stuff. So what I, I took from that, I was like, well, |
| 1:34.4 | I wonder, wonder if I look back and I think about, you know, arguments that I have or have had or |
| 1:40.3 | continue to have over the years. Well, I think I, either on Mike or not, I mentioned your brother. |
| 1:46.7 | Yeah. Yeah. Because I've heard things from him. Right. Right. And maybe you, but mainly from him |
| 1:52.7 | that seemed to make, that made me think that there was a conversation there potentially. Right. |
| 1:57.6 | And then I thought of other people to it. And so I was like, okay. Oh, yeah. So maybe this is like, |
| 2:03.6 | this was a blind spot. And the general, the gist of what I, I think I had realized, which I've |
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