Humans, Animals, Ecologies
Arts & Ideas
BBC
4.2 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 24 February 2021
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
Joanna Bourke is an historian whose previous work has looked at fear, pain, sexual violence and dismemberment. Her new book is a history and examination of bestiality and zoophilia, tracing our changing understandings from Leviticus, to modern psychiatry, the animal rights movement, and beyond.
Anna Tsing's book The Mushroom at the End of the World was an examination of human interactions with fungi and their environments, and vice versa, in post-industrial landscapes. Her new online project Feral Atlas charts the complex and shifting relationships between humans, animals, plants, bacteria and other natural phenomena.
Loving Animals: On Bestiality, Zoophilia and Post-Human Love by Joanna Bourke is out now. Her lecture series Exploring the Body for Gresham College is available online https://www.gresham.ac.uk/series/exploring-the-body/
Anna Tsing's book The Mushroom at the End of the World is out now. You can find her online project at https://feralatlas.org/ It is made in conjunction with Stanford University curated and edited by Anna L. Tsing, Jennifer Deger, Alder Keleman Saxena and Feifei Zhou
Matthew Sweet hosts a Free Thinking discussion Fungi: An Alien Encounter https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000dr46 and looks at the ideas in Darwin's Descent of Man 1871 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000s31z Other discussions about animals include Should We Keep Pets? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09hzj3y Does My Pet Love Me? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0004dr9 Animals: Watching Us Watching Them Watching Each Other https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04nqv0n
Producer: Luke Mulhall
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| 0:33.3 | BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. Hello, my name's Matthew Sweet and this edition of the Arts and Ideas podcast is going to take us into some difficult and challenging territory, the relationships between human and non-human animals, economic, political and sexual. |
| 0:50.8 | The journey begins after this message. |
| 0:53.4 | Hello, I'm Catherine Tickel, and I'm here to tell you |
| 0:56.0 | about Music Planet, Radio 3's weekly show covering roots music from around the world. Now, I know |
| 1:02.2 | that's a pretty big category, but it gives us the opportunity to bring you an eclectic and varied |
| 1:07.5 | range of music, live sessions from some of the biggest international names, |
| 1:11.8 | along with the latest emerging talent. |
| 1:14.2 | We've got classic artists and new releases, and of course our road trip feature, |
| 1:18.7 | sampling the music and culture of different locations from around the world, |
| 1:22.0 | from the deepest of traditional styles to the latest contemporary sounds, |
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| 1:40.3 | A simple proposal, I suppose, on this edition of free thinking, two conversations, two scholars, |
| 1:46.0 | both focusing on the relationships between human and non-human organisms. But Anna Singh and |
| 1:51.8 | Joanna Burke are two of the most original and challenging thinkers in academia today. So on this |
| 1:57.7 | programme, you'll be asked to think about whether it's possible for people and mushrooms to form political alliances and how the legacy of slavery can be detected in the layout of an American strawberry field. |
| 2:09.6 | And you're going to be asked to think about sexual interactions between humans and animals, and compare those ethically and biologically to the processes that |
| 2:19.2 | bring you your bacon sandwich and your cappuccino. That last demand is one that emerges from |
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