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Hello and welcome to Krapin here.

I'm joined once again by...

Yerza Davis. Hello.

Hello.

And recently I was reading through a photo book called Humans by Brandon Stanton.

It features interviews of people on the streets all over the world. He started off and he kind of became well known online for the Humans of New York series.

I'm not sure if you've heard of that. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah. So he did that for a while and he ended up traveling

to other parts of the world and doing basically the same thing, just interviewing people on the

street, getting their insights, hearing their struggles, hearing their story. And when I saw the book

in the library, I just, I picked it up or it decided to read it through. And it's really

profound in a sense. And you get a

sense of the spectrum of humanity, of what people are going through, of the highs and lows of the

human experience. I mean, it could make you laugh on one page and make you cry for the next

page. And seeing that variety of humanity reminded me of another book that I

read and finished recently, which is called Humankind, A Hopeful History by Rutka Bregman.

A friend of mine had given it to me because he said it had changed his whole view on the world.

And so I wanted to talk about some of the concepts that I picked up in that book,

like the origins and critiques of Veneer theory,

why most people are actually pretty decent

and the problems with some of the narratives of our wickedness.

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