Hey folks, Preet here. I'm away this week, so Ian Bremmer, a long-time friend of stay tuned

and of mine, will be guest hosting the show. Ian is the founder and president of Eurasia

Group, a political risk research and consulting firm, and GZero Media. There he hosts the weekly

Global Affairs Show, GZero World. I often turn to Ian on matters of foreign policy,

national security, technology, and lots in between, so I'm excited to hand over the reins to him

for this episode, focused on artificial intelligence or AI. That's coming up, stay tuned.

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is stay tuned, and I am not

Preet Bar. I'm Ian Bremmer. I'm his friend. He's a very close friend, a very trusted friend.

Enjoying me today, someone I think you're going to quite like. His name is Schumann Gusema Jumper,

and he's a technologist, an entrepreneur, and he's an expert on AI. He really understands where

this field is going, and he also enjoys explaining it to people like you and me. He's been working on

tech security for much of his career, who's at Google, where he started the company's trust and

safety product group. His nickname back then was the click frauds are, so you can turn to him to

stop people from stealing millions of dollars that you don't have. He launched Shape Security

back in 2012, focused on preventing sophisticated cyber attacks, and now he is working on AI and

cyber security. It has this stealth startup that he won't tell us about yet, but he probably will

soon. I'm going to talk with Schumann about how we think about artificial intelligence,

how we think about it incorrectly, where it's going, and how we're going to integrate AI in all

of the ways that we live, and the complicated ways that programs like ChatGPT and Google's Bard

are changing the world around us and changing us. Schumann, great to be with you.

Great to be with you, Ian. We're going to talk today about sort of the frontiers

of disruptive technology, particularly generative AI technology, and I couldn't think of anyone

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