From outside magazine, this is the outside podcast.

For a moment, think back to the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic.

The coronavirus is spreading so quickly around the globe, it may only be a matter of time

before it begins rolling across the US.

It was a chaotic and scary time in so many ways.

Hear it outside, we found ourselves wondering what we were supposed to be doing.

Once we sorted out the complexities of remote work.

Because the stories we tell about adventure and embracing risk and just getting out in

the world, they all seemed wrong.

After a bit, though, we found our way, with pieces about very close to home activities,

like backyard birdwatching and even a climbing workout you could do in your kitchen.

But when you really think about it, the pandemic then and now is a survival epic.

One that at its core is about our relationship to the natural world.

And that's the kind of story that we tell all the time at outside.

In this case, it's not about one person trying to live through a bear attack or an avalanche,

but our entire species, battling a highly contagious virus, which makes it the perfect story

for a long time contributing editor, David Kwaman.

Beginning way back in the 1980s, David wrote a column for outside, called Natural Acts,

that had him pursuing fascinating scientific questions around the planet.

David Kwaman was always out in the field finding just incredible insights into the natural

world.

During the environment to life, conservation, really the science behind wildlife discoveries,

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