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Fareed Zakaria GPS

Human rights trailblazer Aryeh Neier on Israel’s genocide accusation, Bill Maher on the left and right in America, Doris Kearns Goodwin revisits the 1960s

Fareed Zakaria GPS

CNN

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4.32.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

The ICC requests arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and his defense minister. Fareed speaks to Aryeh Neier, a founder of Human Rights Watch and a Jewish American who fled Nazi Germany in 1939, who has studied the situation closely and come to some tough conclusions. Next, Bill Maher talks to Fareed about the state of democracy, the left and right, and whether men have lost the ability to communicate with women. Lessons in leadership for President Biden from the master storyteller Doris Kearns Goodwin. Guests: Aryeh Neier, Bill Maher(@billmaher), Doris Kearns Goodwin (@DorisKGoodwin) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is GPS, the Global Public Square.

0:04.8

Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.

0:08.2

I'm Ferid Zakaria coming to you from New York.

0:19.3

Today on the program the ICC requests arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and his defense minister growing a mix of applause and strong condemnation around the world.

0:27.0

There is no equivalence between Israel and Hamas.

0:30.0

I'll talk to Ari and I, the founder of Human Rights Watch, a Jewish American who fled Nazi Germany in 1939,

0:38.0

who has studied the situation closely and come to some tough conclusions.

0:44.0

Then the perpetually provocative Bill Maher, with five months to go until the election,

0:51.0

I ask him about Donald Trump, the Republican Party, and

0:54.8

whether he is sounding crankier than usual these days. It's not that I've gotten old,

0:59.9

it's that your ideas are stupid. And the protests that emerged across college campuses this spring echoed those against the Vietnam War in the 1960s.

1:18.5

I'll ask the master storyteller Doris Kearns Goodwin about those comparisons and about leadership lessons Biden can learn from past presidents.

1:25.0

But first, here's my take.

1:27.0

The situation in Israel looks grim.

1:29.0

The war in Gaza drags on with more Palestinian casualties, opposition to Israel builds internationally,

1:36.5

if and when Israel decides it has degraded Hamas enough to stop, no Palestinian or Arab forces

1:42.3

likely to be willing to take over Gaza, so Israel will stay on as the occupying force.

1:48.0

New insurgencies will probably pop up, and Gaza will remain a wasteland populated by 2.2 million Palestinians living lives of desperation.

1:57.0

Meanwhile conditions in the West Bank are deteriorating rapidly.

2:01.0

If the Palestinian Authority would collapse collapse Israel would have two volatile

2:05.5

arenas and around 5 million Palestinians to police night and day

2:09.9

indefinitely. There is a way out. In fact, the Biden administration has been

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