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Human Rights Attorney Wolfgang Kaleck on Double Standards in International Law, from Russia to U.S.

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Democracy Now!

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4.85.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Wolfgang Kaleck, founder of the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights, talks about the need for a universal, international criminal justice system instead of one where only some nations are held to account.

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0:00.0

This is Democracy Now, Democracy Now.org, the War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman with Juan Gonzalez.

0:10.4

After three years of war, Russian President Vladimir Putin, as for the first time agreed to a limited ceasefire that would pause strikes specifically on the Ukrainian energy infrastructure for 30 days,

0:24.1

as long as Ukraine does the same.

0:26.6

But in a two-and-a-half-hour phone call with President Trump Tuesday,

0:30.8

President Putin resisted agreeing to a broader unconditional ceasefire.

0:35.6

Putin also insisted on a complete halt of foreign military

0:38.8

and intelligence assistance to Ukraine. In a post on social media Tuesday, Trump said

0:44.9

his call was good and productive. A White House statement described it as a first step to a

0:51.5

full ceasefire and permanent peace, adding the negotiations would begin

0:56.1

immediately in the Middle East.

0:57.9

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who is not a part of the call, said negotiating

1:01.8

without Ukraine is pointless, but said he was open to stopping strikes on Russian energy infrastructure.

1:08.7

He said he's waiting to hear more details from President Trump.

1:14.3

We support all steps aimed at the end of the war. We will support them. But in order to support

1:24.2

them, we need to understand what exactly we support.

1:30.9

When President Trump has time, he's a busy man.

1:34.0

When he has time, he can call me any time.

1:35.8

He has my phone number.

1:38.9

We are ready to talk through further steps with pleasure.

1:44.7

President Trump's repeatedly clashed with the Ukrainian president since taking office this year.

1:50.2

In February, Trump falsely accused Ukraine of provoking war with Russia, even though it was the Russian army that invaded Ukraine in February of 2022.

1:54.3

And I think I have the power to end this war.

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