Human-Kind or Human Evil with Rutger Bregman

What Now? with Trevor Noah

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4.6 • 4.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Historian and author Rutger Bregman joins Trevor and Christiana to debate ethics and the possibility of a better world. Are human beings innately good? Innately selfish? Which is better to move the human race forward? Which sows the seeds of our own demise?

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0:00.0	So I've got a toddler of three years old, and if my toddler would compete with a pig, with quite a few tasks where intelligence is being measured, you know, the toddler would actually lose.
0:11.7	I'd watch that, by the way.
0:13.0	Great TV show.
0:13.9	That's great.
0:14.5	I'm just like, that's great TV.
0:15.9	We need to make that a show.
0:16.9	It really.
0:18.4	The toddler and the pig.
0:19.8	And the toddler versus pig?
0:20.1	Which one shops better?
0:21.4	I'm actually in for the show.
0:23.3	We're going to make the show.
0:24.4	Toddler versus Pig.
0:31.2	This is What Now?
0:33.2	With Trevor Noah.
0:34.1	Thank you. with Trevor Noah.
0:44.5	Rutka, welcome to the podcast.
0:50.5	I was thinking about, you know, having you on and I was like, do you get invited back anyway?
0:52.3	This is the thing I found myself asking.
0:54.8	Well, you invited me back, Trevor.
0:59.9	Well, I mean, yeah, but I don't think you've ever said anything against me. And I was just thinking, you're the guy who went to Davos and told all the billionaires who were there. Like,
1:04.5	literally everyone, you sat there and you basically said, you guys are a bunch of hypocrites.
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