Human-Kind or Human Evil with Rutger Bregman

What Now? with Trevor Noah

SiriusXM & Day Zero Productions

News, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.7 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Historian and author Rutger Bregman joins Trevor and Christiana to debate ethics and the possibility of a better world. Are human beings innately good? Innately selfish? Which is better to move the human race forward? Which sows the seeds of our own demise? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	So I've got a toddler of three years old, and if my toddler would compete with a pig, with quite a few tasks where intelligence is being measured, you know, the toddler would actually lose.
0:11.7	I'd watch that, by the way.
0:13.0	Great TV show.
0:13.9	That's great.
0:14.5	I'm just like, that's great TV.
0:15.9	We need to make that a show.
0:16.9	It really.
0:18.4	The toddler and the pig.
0:19.8	And the toddler versus pig?
0:20.1	Which one shops better?
0:21.4	I'm actually in for the show.
0:23.3	We're going to make the show.
0:24.4	Toddler versus Pig.
0:31.2	This is What Now?
0:33.2	With Trevor Noah.
0:34.1	Thank you. with Trevor Noah.
0:44.5	Rutka, welcome to the podcast.
0:50.5	I was thinking about, you know, having you on and I was like, do you get invited back anyway?
0:52.3	This is the thing I found myself asking.
0:54.8	Well, you invited me back, Trevor.
0:59.9	Well, I mean, yeah, but I don't think you've ever said anything against me. And I was just thinking, you're the guy who went to Davos and told all the billionaires who were there. Like,
1:04.5	literally everyone, you sat there and you basically said, you guys are a bunch of hypocrites.
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