This is human events daily. The Christmas conversations, what I'm doing is I've taken some time off and we're going to be running a bunch of conversations with interesting people with friends with other luminaries of thoughts and intellect around the movement and your own turning point offices and run these during the Christmas season, but also want to do essentially just kind of find topics that I thought were a little bit more interesting.

That I thought were a little bit more evergreen and a little bit more timeless in a sense that you could really listen to these anytime. Look, most of the time I'm talking about news of the day, I'm like this happened that happened here's what it means, blah blah blah blah.

And a lot of these conversations get lost and I think there are deeper things that are going on in our world and who better I thought to talk about this than the hostess of both politics and the new amazing breakout podcast, the spillover, it's out. It's Clark everyone.

Wow, that's like maybe the nicest introduction I've ever had on a podcast.

You gave me a very nice introduction on when I did spillover, so I had to I'd reciprocate a little bit.

Thank you so much. Yeah, you told me what you wanted to talk about today and I was like, okay, we're going there.

Well, honestly, I was like, I don't know who else I can talk to this about, but it came up recently. I was on Tim Pool and this was mentioned right at the end of the episode.

And I was earth my mom funny and the opposite is like funny clip because we've been we've been a wedding earlier. I love that you always bring her around for your shenanigans.

I know, right? Well, people are it's funny because like the left sometimes we'll go like, what is your mother think of this? And I'm like, she literally is like standing next to me and watches all like has seen I think every single interview and podcast and show that I've ever done.

100% like she's with me, you know, she's my writer die. And but the question that came up was because they were talking about the Sex and the City reboot and it's like kind of scandalous, of course, that it's back and there's all this like controversy around it, but there was something that the creator of Sex and the City said years after the show ended.

And her name was Candace Bushnell and she was the author was a book originally and she wrote that she in 2019 she given an interview and said that she regretted choosing a career over having children.

And now she is truly alone. And that's and look, I'm not a section of the city guy, but I understand that that's like the general thrust of the show. Right.

So how do you know how to have a massive cultural impact if you're talking about it from a pop culture standpoint that show generated so much when it comes to other TV shows and movies that were inspired by it, just that idea of like a group of women who act like men when it comes to dating and you know, taking their career by their own hands and all that.

So this this is where like like girl boss comes from like the idea that sort of ethos of hey, I'm the girl boss, I'm the bad mama, you know, the bad B.

Yeah, I'm the I'm the queen B like that kind of originates. I'm not saying it was created by Sex and the City, but that was kind of the wave that it wrote in on and then just crashed over society.

But it also ties in with third wave feminism and it dovetailed with this sort of separation of the genders in many ways where you know feminism, I think originally when it started it was about women's empowerment.

Then it almost turned into this like competition and then it became this sort of like separation where oh, we have to be against each other and women and men are constantly, you know, battling it out and women need to be on the pedestal and men need to be off the pedestal.

And it's like, all right, women, you got it. Like we gave you the pedestal, you're on the pedestal now. Like, are you happy?

Well, I don't understand you know what I mean? So like as Sex and the City was a big part of that. Yeah, and this idea somehow they started to mesh together in Corley.

You are more empowered as a woman and it's more you're a better feminist if you the more guys that you sleep with the more that you act like what a stereotypical man is, you know, supposed to act like this frat star mentality.

I don't understand why that became empowering, but it was shows like Sex and the City and I like the show, but I also have always I've always I grew up in a conservative home.

And I watch those shows and I also can separate things from like, okay, this is entertaining, but this is not a way that you should live like I watched Game of Thrones and I don't go around like stabbing people and writing horses with swords and you know conquering West Rose.

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