Huawei and the 5G ecosystem
Sinica Podcast
Kaiser Kuo
4.8 • 676 Ratings
🗓️ 16 July 2020
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
This week on Sinica, Kaiser chats with Andy Purdy, chief security officer of Huawei USA, and Paul Triolo, practice head of geotechnology at the Eurasia Group. They explore the complexities of the 5G ecosystem, challenges to cybersecurity on 5G networks, the process of standards setting in advanced telecommunications, and how the Trump administration's animus toward Huawei might ultimately handicap the U.S. in this vital emerging technology.
5:18: What 5G will enable us to do
18:06: 5G standard setting bodies and their functions
29:55: China’s involvement in the standard setting process
37:05: 5G deployment around the world
50:59: The collateral damage done by banning Huawei
Recommendations:
Andy: A People's History of the United States, by Howard Zinn, and The Road Less Traveled: A New Psychology of Love, Traditional Values and Spiritual Growth, by M. Scott Peck.
Paul: Superpower Showdown: How the Battle Between Trump and Xi Threatens a New Cold War by Bob Davis and Lingling Wei, and The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying by Sogyal Rinpoche.
Kaiser: The YouTube channel of Joe Parrish, a content creator and guitarist.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Cynica podcast, the weekly discussion of current affairs in China, |
| 0:12.9 | produced in partnership with SubChina. SubChina is simply the best way there is to keep on top |
| 0:17.1 | of all the important news coming out of China with our indispensable daily newsletter, |
| 0:21.6 | our website, and our growing range of podcasts and videos. It's a feast of business, political, |
| 0:28.5 | and cultural news about a nation that is reshaping the world. I'm Kaiser Guo, coming to you today |
| 0:33.6 | from what I once thought of as my temporary Cineco South studio here in my home in Chapel Hill, |
| 0:38.5 | North Carolina. It's looking more permanent these days. Today on Cineca, we are talking about |
| 0:43.5 | Huawei and 5G. Given the prevailing political wins right now here in the United States, |
| 0:49.1 | things are going to continue to be tough for Huawei and likely to get even harder. On this program, we have talked |
| 0:56.3 | often about the current U.S. administration's animus toward Huawei and the reasons that underlie |
| 1:01.4 | that. And I don't think it's necessary to go through all of that again, nor do I think it's the best |
| 1:05.1 | use of our time today to talk about the latest in the Meng Wancho case or the travails of Huawei's |
| 1:10.0 | chip unit, high silicon, |
| 1:11.9 | which is increasingly under onerous U.S. restrictions, or to parse Huawei Chairman Rinjing-Fei's |
| 1:18.6 | recent use of some common Chinese idiom and how that was seized on as evidence of his company's |
| 1:23.7 | nefarious intent. But what I do want to do today is talk about what happens when a |
| 1:29.8 | fundamentally binary approach to this particular company. And in this case, I don't even hesitate |
| 1:35.0 | to say that it's not so much the company as the country it's believed to represent. When this binary |
| 1:40.2 | black and white approach is brought to bear on a really complex technology that involves |
| 1:46.0 | hundreds of companies large and small with intertwined IP, with a highly globalized supply chain, |
| 1:52.3 | a technology standard set over the course of many years by multiple participants from many |
| 1:57.0 | countries. It often feels as if here in the U.S. we are setting out rightly or wrongly to |
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