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More or Less: Behind the Stats

HS2 and electric cars, UK vs China emissions & massive maths errors

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Can you really buy an electric car for everybody in the UK for the cost of HS2? That claim was recently made on Radio 4's Broadcasting House programme. Also we look at a viral claim that 1 in 73 people who received the Covid vaccine in England was dead by May 2022. Plus we look at the size of the UK's carbon emissions when compared with China and talk about how a recent More or Less maths error pales in comparison to one in the Guardian. Presenter: Tim Harford Series Producer: Jon Bithrey Reporters: Nathan Gower, Natasha Fernandes Production Co-ordinator: Janet Staples Editor: Richard Vadon

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts

0:06.0

Hello and welcome to a brand new series of more or less. We like Match of the Day,

0:10.8

except for numbers instead of football, on the radio instead of the telly,

0:14.1

and we have yet to persuade Alan Shearer to participate. Still, it's good to have dreams.

0:19.4

This week, with the help of Data Guru Hannah Ritchie, we explore how the UK's carbon dioxide

0:24.8

emissions stack up against those at the rest of the world. We'll also be talking about

0:28.9

Covid vaccinations. There's a viral claim about them causing large numbers of deaths.

0:34.1

We'll look at what's really going on. Is it true that you could buy everyone in the country

0:38.4

in an electric car for the same price as the HS2 rail project? Honestly, who writes these questions?

0:44.1

And someone has made a huge mathematical error. And amazingly, it isn't us. So let's get started.

0:50.8

In July, on BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House programme, Joan Bernie, a long-time agony aunt

1:03.0

and columnist at the Daily Record, said this. It seems to me that actually, you could give every

1:08.0

single person in the country an electric car for the cost of this, I suppose, a certain extent,

1:13.6

vanity project, and then we could all trot around our electric cars, we'd get them for free,

1:18.5

and we would cancel the infrastructure which is surrounding HS2.

1:22.4

And because of that, our more or less inbox has been brimming with questions from loyal listeners,

1:27.2

such as Kim Smith, about HS2, which, when built, would be a high-speed, high-capacity railway,

1:33.2

connecting London, the Midlands, and Manchester. A lady guest on Broadcasting House recently said

1:39.5

that the money being spent on HS2 would be enough to give everybody in the country an electric car.

1:46.4

Could this be true? Let's try to tunnel our way through this. Our reporter Natasha Fernandez

1:52.7

has been investigating Helen Tasha. Hi Tim. So can the government buy everyone in the UK an electric

1:58.5

car for the cost of building HS2? It's a good question. First, we need to find out how much HS2

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