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I think what my brain craves most is newness.

And one of the things that helps with the podcast is that like every episode is a different artist, a different song.

By doing the TV show too, I got to think about all those things,

plus all of the unique challenges of an entirely new medium that I'd never worked in before.

From the Ted family of podcasts, this is Design Matters with Debbie Millman.

For 15 years, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative people about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode, Debbie talks with Rishi Keshirway about his podcast and TV show, Song Exploder.

I end up living with that interview and those stories for so long that if I've done

it well by the end of falling in love with them a little.

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A good song tells a story and behind every good song there's another story of how

that song was born. That is the subject matter of Song Exploder.

Every episode explores a single song and goes deep with its creators on where the idea

for it came from and how they turn that idea into the song we know and love.

Song Exploder itself also has a story.

First it was a podcast and now it's also a series on Netflix.

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