He's still standing after a 5 and 12 season.

Not too good, but there were some others that were worse.

Ben Standing is with us.

Ben, of course, writes and covers this team via his substack column.

I recommend subscribing to it.

You can get a link to it by following Ben

on X on Twitter at Ben Standig. He's got a podcast called Last Man Standig. So we will get to

some of your reporting, which I've already read from over the weekend as it relates to Cliff

Kingsbury, but there was a game, it was a regular season game, even though it felt like

anything but that. Just give me your over, you know, arching reaction to a 24 to 17 season

ending win against the Eagles?

I'm sure you do this, too.

You know how like maybe you're doing some work, but you want some noise,

so you put on like a movie or a TV show you've watched 100 times before just to have something on.

That's kind of how the game was for me to be straight up. I mean, like I was watching, of course, but like I was doing other things because, you know, I don't know how much we were from the bigger picture context, knowing that the offseason is here and this will be a lot of discussion. I don't know that it meant a ton to me. But look, obviously, you know, it's cool to see Bobby Wagner, of course, get

2000s tackle and Von Miller to move up the all-time sacklist. And for Josh Johnson, a guy who's

obviously has such a wacky career to only get the second win as a starter, those things were

pretty cool. Beyond that, you know, the Eagles are mostly playing backups,

so it's kind of hard to know exactly what you're looking at.

I did think kind of going into the game, it would be interesting because, you know,

the depth here is, you know, I think the injuries are the headline story,

but the depth concerns to me were probably the bigger issue because that ultimately,

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