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The draft is going to be here in two years. It'll be wrapped up in two years. And the expectations are that a million people will come to D.C. or will participate as, you know, spectators at the NFL draft

in 2027. Three days. That would be an average of about 33,000. It's obscene to even think about those numbers,

but they certainly seem possible after what we've seen the last couple of years, especially

in Detroit. And a week from tomorrow, the NFL schedule will be unveiled. To talk about

these things and a lot more, my good friend, John Orand.

John is a columnist, a correspondent for Puck News.

You can follow John on X on Twitter at Orand underscore Puck.

You can read him at Puck News.

He does a great job with a podcast called The Varsity, where you can get that wherever you get your podcast. He joins this right now.

So before we get to 2027 in the draft here, just tell me real quickly the final numbers, if you have them from Green Bay in terms of attendance.

And then I'm assuming it was another, you know, crazy ratings number television-wise.

Yeah, I mean, the whole point of the draft, Kevin, is you just have to get these

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