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All right now, one of my favorites to have on the show, Andrew Brandt, former NFL executive for many years in Green Bay, the current executive director of the Morad Center for the study of sports law at Villanova.

Andrew joins me right now.

I'll get to the reason that I reached out to you, which is the situation over the weekend with the quarterback at Tennessee,

which I follow you on Twitter and read a lot of what you write. But, you know, with nine days left before the draft and your history of being involved in so many of them for the Packers,

and by the way, over the years, so many good stories from Andrew, especially about the 2005 draft and Aaron Rogers.

I mean, I think one of my favorite stories from you is that in that draft,

you guys wanted to trade out of the first round because you didn't see anybody worthy at 24 of a first round grade and no one wanted

to trade up. So you selected the best player on your board and that was Aaron Rogers even

though you had Brett Favre. I love that story. You know, one of the things I don't think I've ever

asked you about that draft is do you remember

your reaction or just the organization's reaction, the Packers' reaction, to what Washington

did that year, Andrew, which was Joe Gibbs, you know, first year back, he, they decide to

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