HR2: Aaron Schatz talks DVOA ranks throughout Super Bowl history | Liam Griffin on Commanders’ defensive free agency strategy
The Kevin Sheehan Show
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🗓️ 3 February 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Super Bowl week, New England and Seattle on Sunday. |
| 0:05.4 | Seattle, a four and a half point favorite. |
| 0:07.1 | The total is 45 and a half. |
| 0:08.7 | There are some fives out there, as mentioned, if you're interested in New England, as an underdog. |
| 0:14.8 | Joining us right now is Aaron Schatz. |
| 0:18.0 | You guys know Aaron. |
| 0:18.9 | He's been on with me before. |
| 0:20.7 | And I reference Aaron's |
| 0:22.5 | DVOA metric just a little bit on this show over the years. He is the creator, the innovator |
| 0:28.4 | of the DVOA metric, a great way to measure not only teams, but units, offense, defense, |
| 0:36.2 | and special teams in a very logical way. |
| 0:39.7 | He joins me right now. |
| 0:40.7 | You can follow Aaron on X on Twitter at A-Shats NFL, ASCH-ATZ NFL on X, |
| 0:50.4 | and he is the chief analytics officer at F-T-N-F-N-TN Fantasy, which I am a subscriber of. |
| 0:57.8 | All right, so I do, since it's Super Bowl week, and I know we've had some of these conversations |
| 1:02.6 | before, but I think they're interesting and not everybody remembers the results. |
| 1:06.9 | So heading into this Super Bowl, we'll get the DVOA numbers for both teams. |
| 1:12.2 | But give me the highest rated Super Bowl entrant of all time. |
| 1:17.3 | I know it's your highest rated super team of all time. |
| 1:20.0 | But give me the lowest rated DVOA team to make a Super Bowl. |
| 1:25.1 | The lowest rated, the highest rated based on the regular season was the 2007 Patriots. |
| 1:32.0 | Right. |
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