All right, we're going to talk to Aaron Shats, hopefully. We're just having some issues with our phones.

Aaron is the creator of the DVOA metric. We reference that all the time on this show.

It's essentially a stat. It stands for defense-adjusted value average. It takes basically every play, but it

doesn't treat every single play the same. You know, an eight-yard, you know, a 10-yard play on

third and 20 isn't valued as highly as a four-yard play on third and two.

You know, so there's real context on down distance, et cetera.

And Aaron created this, and it's a very good way to sort of measure a team's overall

strength compared to other teams and, you know, to look at a specific side of the ball, offense, defense, special teams as well.

You let me know when we've got Aaron.

We've got them?

Okay, good.

It's my pleasure to welcome back to the show, the creator of something we reference quite often, DVOA,

Aaron Schatz, at A-Shats NFL, A-S-C-H-A-T-Z NFL.

You can get access to everything that I have access to.

I am a subscriber at F-T-N Fantasy.

By the way, I was having a conversation the other day on my podcast about your all-time rankings.

You went back, I think, in this past off season, you know, the 91 skins get referenced a lot on this show.

I believe that it's the all-time greatest Redskin team. I don't think it's

close. You know, analytics like yours have always really highly respected and valued the 91

Redskins, but you did drop them behind a 1962 Packers team. How did you go back

and how much time does it take you

to go all the way back to 1950

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