HR May Not Be Your Friend - Part 1

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Mike Auzenne

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🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Effective managers need a good relationship with HR. But HR may be the hardest staff organization to have a good relationship with, because their incentives are often misaligned with everyday managers. Even if you have an "HR Business Partner," they work for someone else, and probably support other managers. This isn't inherently bad, but a smart manager knows to work with them, while understanding the challenges.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Manager Tools.
0:02.2	This is Kate and this is Sarah.
0:04.6	Today's podcast, HR may not be your friend, part one of two.
0:08.9	The questions this cast answers are, is HR a resource I can use?
0:13.1	What can I do to work better with HR?
0:15.0	And what should I be careful of when dealing with HR?
0:18.2	If you want answers to these questions and more, keep listening.
0:23.0	You can achieve significant cost reductions by having manager's work directly with your
0:26.9	organization. It's a lower cost per person compared to sending your team to a public event.
0:32.2	When we come to you, there's no additional travel or time away from the office for your staff either.
0:36.5	We have for a flat fee for our core
0:37.9	trainings, $20,000 for up to 30 attendees, either on site or virtually. The effective manager
0:43.7	organizational training also includes a one-year Manager Tools annual license at no additional cost.
0:49.3	Contact Maggie at Customer Service at Manager-Tools to learn more. We talk a lot about HR and sometimes we're mean to HR.
1:00.1	Yeah, that's the right way of saying it.
1:02.3	And we stand by the fact that effective managers need a good relationship with HR.
1:09.6	It's just that it can be really hard to have a good
1:11.9	relationship with them because incentives around HR are different than ours and they're
1:16.9	that could be misaligned with your metrics and incentives as a manager. Yeah, exactly.
1:24.4	We've often encouraged people to get an HR friend. And some people we know have
1:31.4	great HR business partners, just fantastic. And if you do, awesome. Often, though, they also work for
1:39.3	somebody else. They support other managers. They're spread a little thin. It's not insidious or inherently bad.
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